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mxracer
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85 Posts

Posted - 02/05/2010 :  14:23:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OK, so I might have messed up. I'll give you Brandon Mays as someone that deserves consideration for making my list. Facts about riders on my list: OVER ten have had top 100 National Numbers. Who are they?Atleast 4 have been in the top 3 at Amateur Nationals, 3 that can call themselves Champions. Some three time WNYSC/WNYMA #1 plate holders. ??? Yes, Bart Lucas is a former Amateur National Champion, but doesn't make my list. He does however make my top ten "Most Fameous WNYMA Riders" list. CLUE: My top TEN list can't have 45 riders on it.
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USA
266 Posts

Posted - 02/05/2010 :  15:23:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tirepimp;

Is that the Clydesdale class that I have seen before? Weigh in at sign up, must be 200+ and over 30 right? They ran that at the Great Lakes Grand Prix this year...

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mxracer
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85 Posts

Posted - 02/05/2010 :  16:14:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oops, 6 have had top 100 AMA National Numbers. Don't let me BS you.
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plug
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USA
17 Posts

Posted - 02/05/2010 :  16:17:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh, sorry I comprimised the integrity of your thread.

Besides, speed is subjective.
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ben990
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1072 Posts

Posted - 02/05/2010 :  16:46:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by plug

Oh, sorry I comprimised the integrity of your thread.

Besides, speed is subjective.



Actually, speed is a noun.

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dw834
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346 Posts

Posted - 02/05/2010 :  17:38:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Plug you cant count Kurt Holzer that guy still rides more than most teenagers. He still probaly could better himself,if challenged.
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plug
New Member

USA
17 Posts

Posted - 02/05/2010 :  18:50:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Doug,
yeah Kurt is amazing. I heard he is still fast. Plus he's a good guy!

I think longevity should be considered when discussing riders.

You should be on the list.
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dw834
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346 Posts

Posted - 02/05/2010 :  19:18:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
likewise
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motomen125
Novice

USA
58 Posts

Posted - 02/05/2010 :  20:32:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ben thanks for the plug for jr, Ill take back all those nasty things I said about you riding in the white crap. After reading all those names and knowing 99% of them Im just getting way to old. Another name to ad to the list is Joe Hebeler, he use to show up like once a month and race and just go out and wax the 125 expert class. Used to really piss me off he made it look so easy. Also Frank was faster than Andy, although Frank was older, i dont believe Andy was able to beat Frank, when they ran against each other. It was fun to watch though.
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mxracer
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85 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2010 :  00:34:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've seen many amateurs that look pretty fast. Then they finally move up to expert and people say "He use to be so much faster" More than 75% can't cut it and you don't see them the next year or ever again.
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Corey Kandefer
Beginner

35 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2010 :  00:53:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
These are a few that come to mind in no particular order
In my day:
1) Paul Carpenter
2) Bob Kiniry
3) Bruce Stratton
4) Aaron Dieter
5) Billy Siverole
6) Austin Bros
7) Jeremy Tiffany
8) Donny Schmit
9) Casey Higgins
10) Brandon Kuhn

These Days:
1)Brandon Mays
2)Craig Mullet
3)Willey Shatrue
4)Rj Beck
5)Dan Lewandowski
6)Myles Caradori
7)Jeff Mort
8)Sonny Drake
9)Brandon Kuhn
10)Zach Sanders/Mike Metz
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tirepimp
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USA
205 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2010 :  02:45:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Clydesdale class? Catchy....I like it. Now is that 200 with or without gear? Oh wait, doesn't matter really. Clydesdale Lites and Heavies?

Double digit numbers from NY...top of my feeble head:
Aaron Dieter
Brian Austin
Bruce Stratton
Frank Stacy
Andy Stacy
Mike Lauterborn
Paul Carpenter
Fred Vertucci

Wait, there's more....let me think a bit.
OK I thought, a bit of a stretch...also Kurt McMillen, Carlo Coen, Sonny DeFeo, Jim Wienert...still thinking.....

Edited by - tirepimp on 02/19/2010 12:36:17
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mxracer
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85 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2010 :  22:26:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Corey, I want to remove Matt Herman in exchange for Bob Kiniry on my all time list. I'm not sure how I've been watching him weekly in the Lites class and not have him come to mind first thing while putting together my list. You're a great rider.
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mxracer
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85 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2010 :  23:05:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They say Hind-Sight is 20/20. I'm Ignorant. Frank Stacy Facts: National Numbers include 18,39,40,67, and 81. In 1979, he made the podium @ Southwick (3rd) in the 250 class. He not only deserves to be on my list, he is arguably First.
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dloope
Pro

USA
305 Posts

Posted - 02/07/2010 :  09:11:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't think he ever held a WNYMA card but I remember about 10 years ago we were at Hunt. My kid was on an 80 at the time. Then this kid rolls up to the line. He looked like a Harry Potter bookworm type of kid. Then the gate dropped and he proceeded to wax our 80 class which included some very fast kids (Meyer, Dunnings, maybe Alex.)

Last night the same kid was battling for a SX Lites Heat race win at San Diego.

"Flying" Phil Nicoletti
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